getting out of my 6pack

topic posted Sun, October 15, 2006 - 10:15 AM by 
so, dumb as this sounds from a person who has been doing pilates for 2.5 years, i just figured out that when doing anything that involved uppper ab curls, i'm not supposed to be using my 6-pack muscles (rectus abdominis), and instead, be using all the muscles underneath that (obliques, transversus) plus the serratus, which i knew.

when doing roll downs & ups, its not a problem. when doing hundreds and 5's, it is a problem. and now i've spent all this time strengthening the wrong muscles and need to get out of that.

does anyone have any suggestions on how i can get out of my 6 pack? even cues that might help me turn on the right muscles there?
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  • Re: getting out of my 6pack

    Sun, October 15, 2006 - 7:46 PM
    Off the top of my head I'd work on three things-
    one is the breathing- and really engaging the transverse while breathing and lifting the head, shoulders and shoulder blades off the ground.

    I'd also work on the multifidus- very important, often missed muscle. OK. Maybe totally unrelated to your problem- but if you're not working on them, find someone to help you do so. :)

    And, in that same curled up position- think about bringing your shoulder blades towards your hips- you'll feel back muscles engage.
    • Re: getting out of my 6pack

      Sun, October 15, 2006 - 8:14 PM
      i do the breathing pretty well.

      so with the as far as pullung my scapula down, that's a check as well, but you're saying that because you're thinking about focussing on my lats and serratus during hundreds, and pulling my sternum down, both to the ground and to my hips?

      .... i have to look up multifidus.... ok, so i can't describe it here cause its really wordy to do so but when you say "work" on them, you mean strengthen them? what exercise would isolate or trigger them? it would make sense to me to work on that. it would help me maintain nutral spine and pelvic stability so that i might be able to focus my transversus more on curling up my upper body... is that what you're thinking?

      i'm sort of thinking i need to sort of start over with my upper ab curls (i hate starting over!) and only go as high as i can without firing my 6pk. and that if i were to work on my serratus, lats, and obliques a lot, it might help me to pull out of my 6pk. and then i was thinking maybe doing cats will help since that can be done in a way that replicates upper ab curls but without having to lift the weight of my upper body off of the the ground.

      does that sound right?

      thanks for your input. :) i really appreciate it!
  • Re: getting out of my 6pack

    Mon, October 16, 2006 - 2:43 PM
    think of your shoulder blades as a cradle for your upper spine and head. I warm up right before the hundred with shoulder rolls (sometimes lying down, sometimes standing) so they're wrapping down the back; then I have everyone lift their arms (keeping shoulders on the mat), /then/ lift the head for the 100. If you have 1 of those magic circles, you can also use that by holding the circle, arms up, w/palms towards each other and pressing into the circle.

    I hope that helps
    • Re: getting out of my 6pack

      Mon, October 16, 2006 - 5:23 PM
      thank you! i love the image of using the scapula as a cradle.

      i do indeed have one of those rings and just discovered using it this way: laying on back, arms up with ring between palms, lift arms up reaching finger tips towards the ceiling while pressing the ring inward, keeping ribs on the ground and then setting the shoulder blades back down with control, widening them on the mat while gently releasing pressure on the ring. that's kinda like what you're describing right?

      geez. i'm realizing that while its hard enough to give instruction outloud while modeling, its even harder to type it out.
      • Re: getting out of my 6pack

        Fri, August 1, 2008 - 5:11 PM
        now, so many months later, and now that i've been teaching for a year and a half, I can answer my own question!

        the answer for me was the cue of pulling the abs wide from side to side while drawing navel to spine. gets me (and so many of my students) right into the TA. :)

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